tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post116368216229943016..comments2023-10-19T03:40:40.815-04:00Comments on Go Knit In Your Hat: It's hunger. HUNGER, HUNGER, HUNGER!Carolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07651035210994960810noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163906736164894162006-11-18T22:25:00.000-05:002006-11-18T22:25:00.000-05:00Hah!Hah!Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651035210994960810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163905751040434432006-11-18T22:09:00.000-05:002006-11-18T22:09:00.000-05:00Time to break out the red and grey dyes...Time to break out the red and grey dyes...Norskybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17703059422600304972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163894355568151652006-11-18T18:59:00.000-05:002006-11-18T18:59:00.000-05:00Actually, I think it's better than the old terms. ...Actually, I think it's better than the old terms. One was "Food insecurity with hunger," and the other category was "Food insecurity without hunger." How many people with food insecurity *really* didn't have hunger?Emanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08771868716156191377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163871629983467062006-11-18T12:40:00.000-05:002006-11-18T12:40:00.000-05:00Here's a link to a related article on hunger in Am...Here's a link to a related article on hunger in America: <A HREF="http://tbdbitl.osu.edu/media/audio/across_the_field.mp3" REL="nofollow">Who's Feeding Our Children?</A>Norskybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17703059422600304972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163828065823399212006-11-18T00:34:00.000-05:002006-11-18T00:34:00.000-05:00I confess to having a very poor memory; neverthele...I confess to having a very poor memory; nevertheless, I think back when gdubya's dad was president, a big row about of course a family of 4 can eat well for $30 per week (per George the Senior who did not so much as know the price of a gallon of milk. Need I say how glad I was to see your post! Our government! It sure has a way with euphemisms. Along the same lines, I expect they will do away with "poverty" in america. Last I knew a person was "poor" only if she had an income of $11,500 or less per year. Sigh, I'm getting all worked up now and wish I had a dart board with gdubya's face on it!Bev in TNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837498324972442230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163814937683927352006-11-17T20:55:00.000-05:002006-11-17T20:55:00.000-05:00The killer of it is, in this country there are lot...The killer of it is, in this country there are lots of folks who are not hungry, maybe even overweight, who are malnourished, what with McDonalds and Wendy's and Burger King and all. Maybe that's why they changed the name of it. Only in America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163791949950281472006-11-17T14:32:00.000-05:002006-11-17T14:32:00.000-05:00I agree with Cynthia's comments. Honestly, to see...I agree with Cynthia's comments. Honestly, to see the emotion that this post has sparked and the engery people have put into responding shows that this is important to a lot of people. Because it is important enough for us to be upset by the article, it should be important enough for us all to take steps to end hunger in our community. Let's not wait for someone else to take it up. Thanks Carol for bringing the issue of hunger up to our attention.Irish Cloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03843132685236597825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163787852122058822006-11-17T13:24:00.000-05:002006-11-17T13:24:00.000-05:00Or, as my friend Julia puts it, "People who have '...Or, as my friend Julia puts it, "<A HREF="http://jmhm.livejournal.com/1682675.html" REL="nofollow">People who have 'very low food security' die.</A>"<BR/><BR/>But what a shame to mess up all that polysyllabic handwaving with a blunt monosyllable, eh?jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13752779296599153304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163784411277770222006-11-17T12:26:00.000-05:002006-11-17T12:26:00.000-05:00Anyone else remember the "catsup as a vegetable" t...Anyone else remember the "catsup as a vegetable" thing in the school lunch program? That was in the 1980s during the Reagan administration. Gee, he was a Republican, too. What a surprise. Although I wonder just how much better the Democrats will be; they seem to have lost all their morals over the past decade or two.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163776014519071442006-11-17T10:06:00.000-05:002006-11-17T10:06:00.000-05:00Disgraceful yes, but every one of us has a respons...Disgraceful yes, but every one of us has a responsibility to end this, not just the government. Believe me when I say someone you know goes hungry. Someone in your kids class, or from church, or in the neighborhood, or the next town over. Figure out who in your community is in need of some help. Buy extra food when you are at the market and give it to them. Not just at the holidays--every week. If that is too much--try the end/beginning of the month when folks on a really tight budget have to pay the rent. Often that is when they go hungry, followed by a few weeks where things are ok as long as nothing unusual happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163774127134245612006-11-17T09:35:00.000-05:002006-11-17T09:35:00.000-05:00Ugh, I just heard this one come out of the mouth o...Ugh, I just heard this one come out of the mouth of the attorney for Spc. James Baker; the soldier who pled guilty to raping and killing a 14yo girl and her family because he "hated Iraqis".<BR/>rape and murder=combat stressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163769163318723002006-11-17T08:12:00.000-05:002006-11-17T08:12:00.000-05:00That's his advisor's words. He's not clever enough...That's his advisor's words. He's not clever enough to substitute big words like that. He definitely doesn't know what the word hungry means.Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18187303372682555817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163729275472142022006-11-16T21:07:00.000-05:002006-11-16T21:07:00.000-05:00M-H's Work Choices sounds much like the US phrase ...M-H's Work Choices sounds much like the US phrase "Right to Work", which of course means "No Worker's Rights." It's all double plus ungood, quite frankly. Perhaps if our politicians actually had to experience "food insecurity" for an extended period....Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18047049720897209506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163709334077395822006-11-16T15:35:00.000-05:002006-11-16T15:35:00.000-05:00In Australia we have Work Choices for labour marke...In Australia we have Work Choices for labour market reform: now the govt has dismantled most of the protection for working people, it means that you can chose between taking the shit the boss hands out and becoming Food Insecure.M-Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18409916623998907121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163706061943506822006-11-16T14:41:00.000-05:002006-11-16T14:41:00.000-05:00We-e-ell, I kind of think that maybe he experience...We-e-ell, I kind of think that maybe he experienced deprivation when they were handing out the brains...<BR/><BR/>Let's see:<BR/>sobriety-challenged = alcoholic<BR/>humility shortfall = hubris<BR/>compassion fatigue = heartless<BR/><BR/>oooh - double speak is fun!Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651035210994960810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163705585456684682006-11-16T14:33:00.000-05:002006-11-16T14:33:00.000-05:00Not to be shallow, but I love it when you are cran...Not to be shallow, but I love it when you are cranky. It is shameful that a country of our wealth has a single person in it that cannot afford to eat properly. W. has never experienced a moment of deprivation.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13956149601295184876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163703499665789342006-11-16T13:58:00.000-05:002006-11-16T13:58:00.000-05:00To me, Food Insecurity sounds like you aren't too ...To me, Food Insecurity sounds like you aren't too sure how safe the food you are eating actually is.<BR/><BR/>If you want to be fancy/shmansy with terms, Food Deprived would be a better description. Although if you've been there, HUNGRY pretty much covers it. <BR/>Of course there are those who aren't hungry because they filled up on fried cornmush and onions with fake gravy. I am here to tell you, that's Food Deprived. Back in the day, being told I was suffering from Food Insecurity would have enraged me. (come to that, it still engrages though I am now Food Secure)<BR/>Also, if the governments (including mine here in Canada) only want to look at the cost...it costs a country way more in the long run to not feed the kids. If you aren't nourished properly, you can't concentrate on learning, your nerves and brain suffer in their development, and there's a much larger chance that on down the road you'll cost them more money in health care, food stamps etc.<BR/>Debbie:<BR/> how about<BR/>Poor - monetarily challenged<BR/>Illiterate - alphabetically deprived<BR/>Barb B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163702120088393212006-11-16T13:35:00.000-05:002006-11-16T13:35:00.000-05:00Doublespeak, baby. It's sweeping the nation! Go on...Doublespeak, baby. It's sweeping the nation! Go on, try it!<BR/><BR/>Global Warming = Climate Change<BR/>Creationism = Intelligent Design<BR/>Fox News = Fair and Balanced<BR/>fenced in pen for protestors = Free Speech Zone<BR/>Invade = Liberate<BR/>Bigotry = Family Values<BR/><BR/>C'mon, play along, it's propaganderiffic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163700330526206302006-11-16T13:05:00.000-05:002006-11-16T13:05:00.000-05:00I saw the article this morning and didn't think mu...I saw the article this morning and didn't think much about it--I just looked at is as scientific reporting--until I read your entry. Now I'm really annoyed with the phrase. Pretty soon they're going to start calling things like manslaughter "inadvertent life-shortening."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163699063782917532006-11-16T12:44:00.000-05:002006-11-16T12:44:00.000-05:00I'm curious about why the National Academies recom...I'm curious about why the National Academies recommended the change. It seems to me that Food Insecurity With/Without Hunger is pretty descriptive of the situation too many people live with in this world. Low and Very Low Food Security are unnecessarily vague.<BR/><BR/>The reason I think Food Insecurity is descriptive is that the term covers people who aren't necessarily *hungry*, e.g. a family whose food stamps run out after 3 weeks and they cobble together the last week out of food pantries, friends and family. No one is exactly hungry, but no one is really fed either. It is descriptive of the precariousness of many people's lives.<BR/><BR/>The new terms, Low and Very Low Food Security, take that sense of precariousness out. That is troubling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163698676945198052006-11-16T12:37:00.000-05:002006-11-16T12:37:00.000-05:00WTF?back in the early 80s, I was living on $10 a w...WTF?<BR/><BR/>back in the early 80s, I was living on $10 a week for food. I still can't look at ramen noodles without getting squeamish.<BR/><BR/>like everything else in this country, king george the w figures "oh, it's only poor people; screw 'em. I am part of the have-mores!" makes me sick.<BR/><BR/>no excuse for people in this country NOT to have food to fill their bellies.<BR/><BR/>one of my favorite charities is philabundance; this group picks up food from restaurants and groceries and distributes it where it is most needed here in my home town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163698501706473912006-11-16T12:35:00.000-05:002006-11-16T12:35:00.000-05:00I think the appropriate words would be "brain dama...I think the appropriate words would be "brain damage". I wonder how many people could have been fed for how long with the amount of money spent on the study by the National Academies to come up with the phrase "food insecurity".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163692795673567352006-11-16T10:59:00.000-05:002006-11-16T10:59:00.000-05:00Really, we can't afford to give food away? How wea...Really, we can't afford to give food away? How wealthy are we as a country? Bullshit. I get so mad abotu this I want to break stuff.<BR/><BR/>My single Mom was laid off, then under employed and we couldn't even get into a food supliment program. People go on about obese children and education<BR/>about good eating habits, but many working poor can't afford food of the quaility other then ramen, Spam and hot dogs. <BR/><BR/>They all should have to face 'food insecurity' once in there lives and see how they feel. It sounds like a damn mental illness.Sherry Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02103490521732524156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163690526570898352006-11-16T10:22:00.000-05:002006-11-16T10:22:00.000-05:00Well, Loretta, if the news is so positive, why put...Well, Loretta, if the news is so positive, why put some kind of spin on it? Don't you think that calling it "food insecurity" is absurd? And when you think about it, yes, the number has gone down a small bit, but over 35 million -- MILLION -- people in this country still go hungry! I'm not going to be sheepish about being outraged by that.Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651035210994960810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710479.post-1163688717668835852006-11-16T09:51:00.000-05:002006-11-16T09:51:00.000-05:00carol, allow me to reiterate just how much i love ...carol, allow me to reiterate just how much i love your commentary - if i weren't sitting here at work i'd yell, "damn straight, sister!" but since i AM sitting here at work, i can point out the unbelievable absurdity of the fact that in my industry (social and economic program consulting) we are hemhorraging funding left and right for HOUSING and gaining so much we don't know what to do with it in MARRIAGE INITIATIVES. don't get me wrong, i think folks who want to get married (whatever their persuasion) should by all means do so. but to over-fund these largely cosmetic programs at the expense of housing, food assistance, and home energy assistance programs, among other necessities, just kills me. not to mention raising public transit pass costs here in one of the coldest cities in the country (boston) just in time for winter heating costs to go sky-high and screw the people who need both the bus and a little heat the most. for the love of mike - give the people on the ground the money, we know what to do with it!! thank you again for your totally awesome, no-bull words of wisdom. ~gabriellaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com